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Considering the Swine Flu Vaccine? An Interview With Mary Tocco Vaccine Expert


Mary Tocco is on the Board of Directors for WAVE, World Association for Vaccine Education, is the Director of Vaccine Research and Education for Michigan Opposing Mandatory Vaccines, is also affiliated with Mothering Magazine, as a member of “Ask the Experts”.

In 1994, a bill was introduced in Michigan, which threatened to remove the “Philosophical Exemption” to waive vaccines. Mary was very concerned for the families in  her state and got involved with Michigan Opposing Mandatory Vaccines (MOM), a non-profit organization dedicated to preserving the right of parents to waive vaccines if they choose.  She was asked to testify before the government health policy committee.  The group successfully stopped the bill from passing and to date, Michigan is one of a few states that still has the philosophical exemption.

That was the beginning of a dedicated, passionate career of educating and reaching out to parents around the country.  Mary has been sharing and encouraging parents to be proactive in the health of their family, utilizing natural, holistic and health promoting ideas for raising their children. She had four of her five children born at home with mid-wives, promotes breast feeding, an active healthy lifestyle, supports home education and is a dedicated Christian.  She founded the Precious Health Campaign, LLC to help reach parents across America so that they too would have the same opportunity for healthy families.

Interview with Mary Tocco

Q. Dr. Wegmann: Please give a brief history of when the U.S. started to use vaccines and the increase in vaccine use.

A. Mary Tocco: I am honored to be interviewed by your group. As you know, I have independently investigated vaccines for over 29 years. The historical information is very important when considering what we do today and what was done in the past. Here is an over view of the increase vaccine schedule and dates when introduced:
The amount of vaccines has increased from
• 1950 – 3 vaccines given at the age of 5-6years old
• 1983 – 10 Vaccines given up to age 6
• 2002- 23 doses for 3 diseases by the age of 2
• 2007 – 36 Vaccines for 17 diseases most by age of 2
• 2009 – 37 vaccines for 18 diseases most given by age of 2

If you break them down that equals about 81 injected bacterial/viral components injected into babies. (Koren Publications 2003 ) Here is when the different ones were introduced:

• Polio 1954
• Small pox 1902
• DPT mid 1940
• MMR 1978
• Hemophilus b 1985
• Hepatitis B 1991
• Chicken pox 1995
• PVC 2002 (Pneumococcal Conjugate Vaccine)
• Flu 2005
• RotaTeq 2006 (Rotavirus Vaccine)
• HPV 2007 (Gardasil – Human Papillomavirus Vaccine)

Here are other vaccines as reported by

Avian Flu
Japanese Encephalitis
Lyme disease
Military Vaccines

Q fever
Respiratory Syncytial
Small Pox
Typhoid Fever
Yellow Fever

Q. Dr. Wegmann: You speak around the country on vaccine related issues; why is this topic so close to your heart?

A. Mary Tocco: I realized many years ago that parents were not given the chance to make informed vaccine decisions. I also observed that children were getting injured from the number of vaccines recommended. It became a passionate mission to help educate them on this issue. I saw enough information before having my five children that I made the decision to not vaccinate. I am fortunate because I have five very healthy children who are going into adulthood with the benefit of natural immunity and there is nothing like “Natural Immunity”. I feel blessed and believe that all children should have the opportunity to express their natural born health potential. I believe that vaccines interfere with that process and that the lack of information that parents get is unacceptable…they cannot make informed vaccines decisions. I became really involved in 194 when the state of Michigan was considering a bill which would remove our philosophical exemption. I, with Michigan Opposing Mandatory Vaccines apposed the bill and to this day, Michiganders have the right to refuse vaccines using that exemption. That began my speaking career and in 2006, I released my first DVD, “Are Vaccines Safe?” which has now been viewed by over 120,000 people. The information is still accurate and the DVD continues to assist parents in making this important vaccine decision.

Q. Dr. Wegmann:– Jan 26th 2009 a Study Found that High-Fructose Corn Syrup Contains Mercury.  Is this a possible exposure to mercury that has been overlooked? Could this also tie into the fact why autism has skyrocketed?

A. Mary Tocco: I believe that our children, unlike any other generation of human beings before, are bombarded with all kinds of toxins in their food, air, water and other environmental exposures. I do believe that as we discover other sources of mercury, we must carefully examine all the evidence. I do however; believe that the #1 cause of autism is the vaccines, not only because of mercury but all of the other toxins that are in vaccines as well. Mercury is definitely a contributing factor. Let us start by looking at the scientific studies on mercury:
• In 1948, a Blue Ribbon Panel of doctors was commissioned by the government to look at all medications that contained all forms of mercury. They looked carefully at the vaccines and other over-the-counter drugs that contained different levels of mercury. They recommend it all mercury, including Thimerosal, be completely removed from all human products. Studies showed that Thimerosal is very toxic even at one part per million. I personally met the only living doctor, Frank Engley MD, who sat on that panel just last year and interviewed him on this subject. He was totally disgusted that the Thimerosal was never removed and shocked to see the amounts children were exposed through the vaccines. He said they proved that it was not even a good sanitizer which is why they claim it is in the vaccines. He blamed the lack of removal on “Politics”.
• Department of Defense during WW2 said Eli Lilly must label it “Poison”
• 1956 – CDC received reports on the toxicity of Thimerosal
• 1971 Eli Lilly’s own study discerned that it was “Toxic to tissue cells” in concentrations as low as one part per million. That amount is 100 times weaker than in typical vaccine given to babies last 20 years.
• 1977 – 10 babies died when Thimerosal was dabbed on umbilical cord in Toronto, Canada
• Still used in manufacturing of vaccines today, leaving trace amounts that exceeds the safety levels.
Pregnant mothers are now recommended to get the flu vaccine (12.5 micrograms of Thimerosal) while pregnant and 96% still contain the full load of Thimerosal. Often a mother is also given up to three RhoGam shots if she is RH- and that shot also contains 25 micrograms of Thimerosal. The possibility of causing harm to the unborn baby is overlooked! Here are some recent studies about the vulnerability of the developing fetus:
• The developing brain is considerably more susceptible to damage by mercury when compared to the adult brain (Clarkston, 2002)
• Even moderate doses causes extensive brain damage and mental retardation (Bertossi, 2004)
• Despite numerous studies, there is no “level of exposure that is convincingly harmless-especially to the developing fetus” (Cranmer, 1996)

I do believe that there are other contributing factors but the #1 cause I believe is the vaccines. This is the largest mercury exposure any child in America will ever get. Consider the mercury Thimerosal levels in the vaccines that were finally used up in the begging to 2003. Remember, in 2000, Congressman Dan Burton asked that all of the vaccines containing mercury be pulled immediately. This did not happen…they were used up. Here is a quote from the Congressional hearings:  “We all know and accept that mercury is a neurotoxin, and yet the FDA has failed to recall the 50 vaccines that contain Thimerosal… On their own website, the FDA states, ‘lead, cadmium, and mercury are examples of elements that are toxic when present at relatively low levels’…”
“Our children are the future of this country. As a Government we have a responsibility to do everything within our power to protect them from harm, including ensuring that vaccines are safe and effective. Every day that mercury-containing vaccines remain on the market is another day HHS is putting 8,000 children at risk. …”
Congressman Dan Burton

When you add up the years that passed until they were used up we can estimate that 11,680,000 children’s health and lives were at risk! Unfortunately, the greed and powers that control our government are not concerned with the health of our children.
Here is a list of the Thimerosal containing vaccines given up to 2003.
• Hep. B gave day one in hospital 12.5 mcg mercury.
• Hib 25 mcg mercury
• DTaP, 25 mcg mercury
Totaling 65 mcg of mercury
• Now recommending flu vaccine for all children (25 mcg) and they say it is preservative free, that is just not true.
EPA safety level for a child birth weight to about 4 years old = .01 mcg. – 4 mcg.
The babies were given 41 – 60 times the safety level in one visit at the well baby check-up at two months old.

Mercury exposure from vaccines from birth to 6 months until 2003 – By age 6 months, a fully vaccinated infant
would have received:

3 DPT 75 mcg

3 Hib 75 mcg

3 Hep B 37.5 mcg

Total = 187.5 mcg
(FDA Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research)

Q. Dr. Wegmann: – What do you say to all the people who have been vaccinated and have not had a problem?

A. Mary Tocco: I would say that they are the fortunate ones and do we really know what the future holds for these children? If they are vaccinated, they got the toxins too! They are finding SV40, which is a monkey virus and came from the polio vaccines, in cancerous brain, bone and lung tumors of children and adults. (Congressional hearing September 9, 2003) Just because they did not have an immediate reaction that left them injured, one cannot assume they are going to be healthy. There is a new medical doctor from Canada who can show that all vaccines carry the risk of causing ischemic strokes. By “dumping” stuff in the blood, it can cause “blood sludging” which can lead to strokes in all major organs. His website is and he has just finished a complete DVD series on how this happens. His research is now in the US vaccine courts and he will be our Keynote speaker this May 15, 2009 at the 2009 International Vaccine Risk Symposium.

Q. Dr. Wegmann: How do we begin to reverse this trend of autism and autism spectrum disorder?

A. Mary Tocco: First: I believe that to stop this trend, we must stop the whole vaccine program NOW! If not the statistics will continue to climb. Now, it is estimated that autism effects 1 in 150 and even more in some states. I believe that many of the other chronic problems affecting our children including asthma, learning problems, ADHD, juvenile diabetes are related to the vaccines. It is no mystery that the American children are some of the sickest children in the world. We give more vaccines, are foods are laced with chemicals, and we pollute our water, lakes, oceans and air. All of these things are unacceptable but the worst insult to them is the vaccine program where we are injecting directly into the body, it gets into the blood and exposes all of vital organs in the body to the toxins. This does not give immunity but I believe causes immune suppression. We must stop insulting the human body this way or I fear that we will destroy the next generation. These children will have to fight to stay healthy!

Second: I am very happy to be a part of a growing profession that is helping these children recover. It started many years ago with medical doctors whose own children became injured after vaccines. Unfortunately, that is what it takes for the scales to fall off the eyes of many. These MD’s began to see how the children were injured internally. They began to identify very specific problems that all these children have in common and have developed a program called Defeat Autism Now! (DAN!) This is a training program that focuses on the vaccine injury and addresses nutrition, diet, heavy metal toxicity, severe yeast problems in the gut and many other malfunctions these children suffer with. Jenny McCarthy is a mother who knows this personally and has increased the awareness level because of her own son’s autism. Her son is almost completely recovered from his autism. There are many hundreds of children across the country that are in the process of healing or who have recovered sufficiently and I know many personally. My daughter is a chiropractor who went through the DAN! training and then created a training program specifically for the chiropractor called, Hope for Autism, BioNutritional care. This program is overseen by a great board of doctors who have been leaders in the autism treatment for many years. ( )

This program incorporates chiropractic neurology, hyperbaric therapy and many other modalities that will help these children recover. The International Chiropractic Pediatric Association has endorsed the training program and has applied for continuing education credits in the states. We are having the first training conference along with the vaccine symposium May 15-17, 2009. This will equip the chiropractor to go back into his community and have a major impact on the health of these special children. For information and to register go to

Q. Dr. Wegmann: What do you believe the science shows and how confident are you in the studies that show no vaccine-autism link?

A. Mary Tocco: I believe the science has proven that the toxins in the vaccines are a burden on these little babies and that we really haven’t paid attention to the long-tern consequences until recently. Boyd Haley, top mercury specialists from University of Kentucky stated (I am paraphrasing) that the debate is over…any doctor or scientist who still believes that mercury in vaccines is safe, is a buffoon! They are either ignorant or they choose to be stupid.
If we are to wait for the Institute of Medicine, the American Pediatric Association, The Center for Disease Control or the Environmental Protection Agency to admit fault, it will never happen because of liability and greed. Thousands of parents across the nation have proven that their children were developing normal only to regress after vaccination. The studies that the CD refer to saying, “There is no conclusive evidence showing a link between vaccines and autism”, are based on junk science. David Kirby exposed this in his book, Evidence of Harm. David will also speak at the 2009 International Vaccine Symposium on May 15, 2009 in Charleston, SC.

Q.Dr. Wegmann: Is there anything else you would like to add?

A. Mary Tocco: Yes, first I want to introduce a new author, Dr. Todd Elsner who just released a new research book, EVERYTHING THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT VACCINES…

This book is amazing and exposes how vaccines are now made on aborted baby organs. He describes how the abortionists and the vaccine manufactures work together to harvest “Live Aborted Babies” for the purpose of organ donation and vaccine development! Many churches are supporting vaccine programs by offering FREE vaccines to senior citizens and flu shots to pregnant mothers and children. Every pastor and every church in America needs this information. This book is fully referenced and exposes the lack of safety studies, toxic ingredients and much more. Dr. Elsner will also be speaking at the 2009 International Vaccine Symposium on May 15, 2009 in Charleston, SC.  His website is

The next thing is the amount of aluminum in the vaccines. They claim to reduce the mercury but what about the aluminum? Here are some scary facts:

Dr. Robert Sear reported in his book, The Vaccine Book states that FDA sites that a toxic dose of aluminum for a baby is 20 micrograms (mcg). Day one, baby gets the Hep.B vaccine containing 250mcg of aluminum.  Then at 2 months baby goes in for the “well-baby-visit” and gets several shots that can equal up to 1,875 mcg of aluminum. The specific shots that contain aluminum are:
• DtaP 170 – 625 mcg
• Hepatitis A – 250 mcg
• Hepatitis B – 250 mcg
• HPV – 225mcg
• Pediarix (Dtap, Hepatitis B, Polio combination) 850mcg
• Pentacel (same combo) 330 mcg
• Pneumococcal – 125mcg

Dr. Sear Says the following in his book:
“Studies need to be done looking at blood levels, where it accumulates, how the body eliminates and at what rate.

“My instinct was to assume that the issue had been properly researched, and that the studies had been done on healthy infants to determine their ability to rapidly excrete aluminum. This is disgraceful and dangerous.”
No studies have been done!

Aluminum is an adjuvant that stimulates the immune system helping vaccines to work”
The new Cervical Cancer Vaccine – HPV now recommended for all young girls and young woman contains 225 Micrograms of aluminum per shot and girls get 3 shots = 675 mcg aluminum.

Aluminum is a toxic heavy metal and is not easily eliminated from the body. It also accumulates in the fatty tissue of the body, most importantly the brain which is almost all fat.

I will end by saying that this is the most emotional controversial topic of the 21st Century! Parents have been lied to, deceived and brainwashed into believing that vaccines are safe, necessary and effective. I have worked very hard to bring out the full truth for one reason only…to help save lives and to stop needless suffering. This has been a long, hard road and often, not a very popular one but I am proud to say that I have been seeking Truth and I hope to see the day when Justice is served.

Parents must know that they have the right to avoid all vaccines if they choose. Every state has its own requirements and its own waivers. Never let anyone talk you into doing something you do not believe is the right thing to do. If your doctor will not respect your decisions, fire him/her and get one that will. All that evil needs to succeed is for decent human beings to do nothing!

This year, Jan. 2009, I formed the “Vaccine Risk Speakers Bureau”. Our goal is to sweep the country with the latest and best research showing how dangerous vaccines really are. It is made up of Sr. Andrew Moulden, Dr. Todd Elsner, and Dr. Renee Tocco and myself. We are available for conferences, town meetings and any other venue where people want to get informed.

To schedule the speakers, call Mary at 231-642-7984 and for more information, please visit My DVD, Are Vaccines Safe? is also available on the website.

God Bless,

Mary Tocco

I will leave you with my favorite quote:

“When a man is honest and he hears the truth, he will embrace the truth or he ceases to be honest”